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ShrikeMaster · Mar 22, 2006, 01:08 PM // 13:08

When will Anet stop the massive use of farmbots , i know for a fact that already several players told them about this cheating going on.
Just take a look at the Talos Chute exit of Drogs and you will be amazed how many keep streaming out that gate in a constant flow.
Now i understand why there are so many auctions at Ebay where you can buy unlimited gold ,some claim to have several millions of platinum for sale !!
I think this is cheating in its worse form ,we all know that you have to play many hours to get a decent amount of gold.
I am not flaming here about the live players that farm but against the bot-programs that are running day and night to farm while the owner is asleep or at work or ..... (whatever)
I truly hope Anet will stop this soon because it also gives certain guilds an unfair advantage in let's say guild battles because they will alway's have the best stuff ,

Greetings from a player that really likes Guild Wars ,

Shrike

studentochaos · Mar 22, 2006, 01:20 PM // 13:20

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Originally Posted by ShrikeMaster

I truly hope Anet will stop this soon because it also gives certain guilds an unfair advantage in let's say guild battles because they will alway's have the best stuff ,

There has to be a million of this thread now.

The quoted section isn't accurate. No guild will win because they have a HOD sword or a 15% -5 energy fellblade. No weapon in the game is such a strong edge that it is better than skill. Most top guilds have good equipment because they are seasoned players who have played the game so long they developed a large amount of wealth. Also, this stands to accuse all ladder guilds paying for gold, something that is highly unlikely to be true at all.

bad person · Mar 22, 2006, 01:25 PM // 13:25

I have to agree with studentochaos - having millions in gold does not really provide an advantage to anyone, it just allows them to have some of the more exotic items in the game. That 15^50 longsword from Droknar's Forge will work just as well as that 15 always fellblade in the right hands.

Antheus · Mar 22, 2006, 01:32 PM // 13:32

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Originally Posted by ShrikeMaster

I truly hope Anet will stop this soon because it also gives certain guilds an unfair advantage in let's say guild battles because they will alway's have the best stuff ,

Bots have to go, agreed entirely.

Fortunately, the game is not gear based. You can buy perfect gear in droks, or get it from various collectors. Guilds especially have no need for gold, since they can trade loot items internally.

The one and only market for gold are certain individuals, who want FoW armor, and some who want to show off the rarest weapon skins. And even then, people interested into weird weapons usually have their fortune already, since they've been around for a while, so its again non-factor.

quickmonty · Mar 22, 2006, 01:33 PM // 13:33

Where is this "Drogs" that people speak of?

/sarcasm

ShrikeMaster · Mar 22, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39

Studentochaos you wrote:
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Also, this stands to accuse all ladder guilds paying for gold, something that is highly unlikely to be true at all.
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I clearly stated "certain guilds" so your remark that i accuse all ladder guilds that play for money is ridiculous .
I do however agree that having lots of money will not automattically let you win guild-battles.
I'm just saying that it gives an unfair advantage because imho it's simply cheating to use farmbots .

ShrikeMaster · Mar 22, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40

Drognars Forge , a town ingame .

Kassad · Mar 22, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43

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Originally Posted by ShrikeMaster

Drognars Forge , a town ingame .

Doesnt exist, unless you mean DROKNARS FORGE.

BBQRibs · Mar 22, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45

I think Drog's is just west of Dork's

I took some video capture of the stream of farming monks leaving drok's this morning. Its like watching the birds fly south for the winter... so... mezmerizing...

Kassad · Mar 22, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48

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Originally Posted by BBQRibs

I think Drog's is just west of Dork's

Drog's?
Dork's?

God damnit, are these the new l33t towns that dont exist on the map?

studentochaos · Mar 22, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48

I took your "certain" as a overly broad statement. Personally, I would be shocked if even one serious ladder guild bought gold because they felt they gained an edge from it.

Note: It is called "Droknar's Forge" which is why others were giving you a hard time about your spelling.

Edit: Wow, people sure jumped on the "drognar" thing fast.

bad person · Mar 22, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

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Originally Posted by ShrikeMaster

I'm just saying that it gives an unfair advantage because imho it's simply cheating to use farmbots .

But how does the use of farmbots give certain guilds an unfair advantage? A 15^50 req 8 crystalline sword isn't any better than any other 15^50 sword. There is no item in the game that a rich player could buy that is significantly better than an item that could be obtained by collectors or crafters.

Blaster The Warrior · Mar 22, 2006, 01:52 PM // 13:52

yeah when you go international district in droknar you will be amazed how many go in and out there its like OMG O_O you can't believe it. first it was at augury but now they all run out of droknar.

TideSwayer · Mar 22, 2006, 02:04 PM // 14:04

The Troll Cave is probably going to get hit with the nerf stick soon, maybe even before Factions hits. Yeah, it's a great place for us legit players to rack up the skill points (and for power levellers too), but something has to be done about the bot farmer explosion in Drok's. In any case, in about a month legit players will be taking their Tyrian characters over to Cantha and spending lots of their time there, so any of them affected by a Troll Cave nerf will quickly get over it. ANet doesn't even really need to add a green-item subquest there like they did at Prophet's Path. Just reduce the numbers of trolls to a smaller, non-desirable-for-farming number. If farmers can run by them and pile them up, runners can as well. (Is that even the route from Drok's?) There's really no need for that many Trolls to be in that cave at this point. Seriously.

ANet, if you really are planning on nerfing away the Troll Cave soon, please do some advanced thinking and ALSO nerf any other spots these bot farmers will flock to next (if any else exist). Or dare I say it, remove the -50 health icon once and for all?

fiery · Mar 22, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

I had fun with the farm bots. While solo trapping i noticed a long line of people running to zone out. I noticed alot of monk/warrior, so I was like would be fun to tag along with one. I added like 10 of them to my list and one joined and zoned. Once in he got all his enchantments on, and he drew a line on the compass to stay back. Of course I didn't and he started rounding up the troll and getting drops as well as I. I don't think they care, but one or two of them responded

. Plus I got some drops along the way. Another thing they are bad at soloing avicara I had to jump in and lay some traps.

Also when they leave they say "bai bai", as in bye bye im guessing.

heavy metal rules · Mar 22, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

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Originally Posted by BBQRibs

I think Drog's is just west of Dork's

I took some video capture of the stream of farming monks leaving drok's this morning. Its like watching the birds fly south for the winter... so... mezmerizing...

I couldn't agree anymore, i've seen this thread so i wanted to go there and check it out, and sure enough, i couldn't believe my eyes, just loaded with "bot" monks or the pro farmer most have no guild attached to them some do of the same guild or whatever, just crazy..

Kook~NBK~ · Mar 22, 2006, 03:06 PM // 15:06

It's a huge mess. And it seems to me that it's starting to effect the economy. I've noticed since the desert nerf that prices on many things at the traders have dropped significantly - dye prices in particular.

bad person · Mar 22, 2006, 03:06 PM // 15:06

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Originally Posted by fiery

I had fun with the farm bots. While solo trapping i noticed a long line of people running to zone out. I noticed alot of monk/warrior, so I was like would be fun to tag along with one. I added like 10 of them to my list and one joined and zoned. Once in he got all his enchantments on, and he drew a line on the compass to stay back. Of course I didn't and he started rounding up the troll and getting drops as well as I. I don't think they care, but one or two of them responded

. Plus I got some drops along the way. Another thing they are bad at soloing avicara I had to jump in and lay some traps.

Also when they leave they say "bai bai", as in bye bye im guessing.

If you joined it or it interacted with you at all, it's not a bot. The majority of these are simply professional farmers.

Jeremy Untouchable · Mar 22, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

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Originally Posted by bad person

If you joined it or it interacted with you at all, it's not a bot. The majority of these are simply professional farmers.

This is not true. if they were people they would respond. i pmed over 40 of them yesterday in droks dis 2 international, 2 replyed, one was a girl rather nice. other just sent back "??? ???" i was spamming the message" human farmer or bot? I am taking a poll, no reply and you are on the bot list" weird, and it sucks b/c i have a monk that 55 when i feel like it. and i dont want them to nerf all the good spots.

bad person · Mar 22, 2006, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by jeremy untouchable

This is not true. if they were people they would respond. i pmed over 40 of them yesterday in droks dis 2 international, 2 replyed, one was a girl rather nice. other just sent back "??? ???" i was spamming the message" human farmer or bot? I am taking a poll, no reply and you are on the bot list" weird, and it sucks b/c i have a monk that 55 when i feel like it. and i dont want them to nerf all the good spots.

So, because they didn't reply to you that makes them all bots? You ever consider that they didn't respond because they're doing what they get paid to do and aren't really concerned with your research project?